And she was saying that just I just can’t get them to think about it. They just want to have fun. And it got me thinking afterwards. And that might be a shift that people can make.

Instead of thinking about retirement and wealth creation, which is “boring”. Why not think about this as fun? Would it be fun to have income that you don’t have to work for? Wouldn’t be fun to be in a comfortable retirement where you can continue your lifestyle that you have today? It is fun to go out with friends and have dinner, but that fun comes at a cost. It takes money out of your pocket that you could use for investing.

Now, if you flipped this, say: “Wouldn’t it be fun to own your own house?”. I just got to forfeit some of the fun that I want to have today to get to my fun of owning my own house, being able to have fun and nail things in the wall and paint walls and move things around because it’s my place and I can do these things and that would be fun. So shift that thinking of fun for now to fun for later. That will continue on because having hours for yourself is something that you get to keep as long as you look after it, of course, and you’re being responsible, but that’s fine as well. It’s just not a “now fun” it’s a little bit “later fun” and I’m willing to forgo a bit of “now fun” to get there.